Distributing the bread before consecrating the wine
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I don't think there is any problem with the order Martin Luther used, as it is the same as the order used by Christ in the Last Supper. I do believe the 1324 order is likely used due to it scaling a little better when the bread and wine are distributed after consecrating them.
The Last Supper was only a few people, compared to a Sunday service which could be hundreds of people. By receiving the bread and the wine at the same time, you can cut the time needed for communion to nearly half.
As @warren mentioned in his answer, my current church actually distributes the bread and wine/juice, then the pastor will say a blessing over the bread and we will consume it. Then the pastor says a blessing over the wine and we consume that. I believe this is similar to Martin Luther's method, except it is distributed (to hundreds) before the blessings.
On a smaller scale, I believe Martin Luther's ordering would be wonderful.
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I have ONLY (but in many churches [baptist (several versions), presbyterian (several versions), & non-denominational]) ever seen the order done as described above and one other method:
- bless bread
- distribute bread
- consume bread
- bless wine
- distribute wine
- consume wine
OR (and only in the context of large congregations in awkward facilities)
- distribute bread & wine
- bless bread
- consume bread
- bless wine
- consume wine
The first method is as described in both Luke and 1 Corinthians.
The second is a variation to accommodate unusual crowds.
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My church background is from the Baptist denomination in the UK and when they celebrate communion it's nearly always in the manner described (ie bless & distribute the bread, then bless & distribute the wine). Nowadays I'm part of a congregation where bread and grape juice (there's a no alcohol policy in the building we meet in) are provided and people can take it in any manner, and any order, they see fit.
I've seen communion celebrated in many different ways, formal and informal, with a large variation of what's done when. While some churches dictate a set order for these things, I don't think many would find a slight adjustment objectionable (although as with any group of people there are always some who will kick up a fuss!)
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