If Satan fell because of sin, then was there sin in heaven at that point?
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Sin is not in the atmosphere of a place, but in the person who disobeys God. Places don't disobey God, do they, so heaven itself does not have sin. It appears that you are thinking that sin is spread into the atmosphere like germs, and cause people to start thinking sinful things.
Sinners can entice others to sin by their actions and words. In Revelation 12, Satan is thrown out of heaven "and his angels," which implies that other angels have either fallen on their own, or were influenced by Satan.
However, Satan is still under the rule of God and is called back to heaven now and then, as we see in Job 1 and 2. So heaven at times is inhabited by sinning creatures.
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Well Luke 10:18 states And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. So, I am not sure as to any proof or reference that God "cast" Satan from Heaven.
Another interesting thing to note is the reference to the book of Job, chapter 1, verse 6 that states; Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. This to me implies that Satan is a Son of God and presents himself as one. Having been the highest angel of Heaven and keeping in mind that God co-exists without time and with time, Satan still then presents himself to God as a son of God.
In regards to the actual question of sin in Heaven we can deduce that if God is all as stated in Proverbs 15:3 The eyes of the Lord are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good. and again in Jeremiah 23:23 “Am I a God near at hand,” says the Lord, “And not a God afar off? 24 Can anyone hide himself in secret places, So I shall not see him?” says the Lord; “Do I not fill heaven and earth?” says the Lord. Also in Daniel 2:22 He reveals deep and secret things; He knows what is in the darkness, and light dwells with Him. Im sure there are more but this one stand out the most to me Psalm 139:8 If I ascend into heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there. God is all, none and everywhere without being anywhere. He is so far beyond our understanding and perfect beyond measure so that its possible the concept of sin does not apply to Him. Who are we to say that God cannot do something? Is not everything created by Him? To include Satan? And who are we as mere men that we can understand the ways of the Lord? David says that if he makes his bed in hell, God is there. Also Heaven is brought down to earth (Revelation 21:2 Then I, John,[a] saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.) so therefore it is not we as believers that go to Heaven but Heaven that comes down to us when all is restored and made new and the old washes away.
The concept of sin, in my opinion being but a man, is anything that makes us turn away from serving God as the only One and perfect Lord. So sin can exist anywhere, at anytime if we turn from serving the Yaweh.
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I think it's also important to think about the way things are now, and the way they will be in eternity. In the new heavens and the new earth, there will be no more sin; and Satan, the fallen angels, and the unbelievers will be in hell with no possibility of reaching the new heavens and the new earth. They will be separated from God forever (the second death).
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