What's the date of this army uniform?
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The writing on the backside reads in my eyes as:
Sir Walter Olivey KCB, 51 Blessingdon Road
Note that I read a 'd' in "Blessingdon", not a 't' as in Blessington below:
This gives us a direct hint at:
Sir Walter Rice Olivey, KCB
Birthdate: 1832
Birthplace: Falmouth, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom
Death: 1922 (89-90)
Immediate Family:
Son of Hugh Oliver Olivey and Peggy Olivey
Husband of Elizabeth Olivey
Brother of Hugh Pengilly Olivey; William Olivey; Henry Olivey; Margaret Olivey; James Olivey and 2 othersWalter Rice Olivey Collection: 1911 England & Wales Census Birth: Circa 1831 - Mylor, Cornwall Residence: Apr 2 1911 - 51. Blessington Road, Lee, London, England Wife: Elizabeth Olivey
Managed by: Peter John Olivey Last Updated: January 8, 2020
Olivey - Researches so far show that the family has been in settled in Cornwall, England since the 16th century, certainly since the commencement of parish registers. The earliest reference being to one Richard Henry Olyvye who married Anne (?) in St Keverne in 1583. Variants of the name are Oliveh, Olivie, Olivee and variouse phonetic variants which include substitution of the vowels such as "y" for "i". The surname Oliver is not a variant as far as I can determine at present. On the other hand Olive is a variant, certainly in Cornwall and the west of Devon but not universally throughout the UK.
The name probably has French origins, as currently there are Olivi and Olivie families in France but these lines have not been pursued.
Family groups have departed the UK for the USA and Australia mainly with odd ones in Canada.
Notable Individuals
One member of the family has been knighted. Colonel Sir Walter Rice Olivey (1831-1922) was a Paymaster in the Army. His son also a Walter Rice (1860-1880), was killed during the last stand of the 66th Foot (Wiltshire Regiment) at the battle of Maiwand, Afganistan in July 1880.
My Olivey card index currently holds details of 553 males, 473 females and 509 spouses.
If the next picture was indeed his son Walter, certain family traits seem present:
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The cap badge insignia inquired seems to look like depicting a castle, the Castle of Gibraltar, (which can be read directly in the picture in question, but lacking the Latin motto) also matching the Suffolk Regiment, with a version of that badge on Wikipedia looking like this:
More to the point of the forage cap's insignia:
— Uniformology: Peaked Forage Caps and Badges in the British Army 1881–1902.
For the Jacket:
— Uniforms of the British Army by P.W. Reynolds, Uniforms of the Suffolk Regiment 1795–1913.
A picture of Walter Rice Olivey as paymaster of the 12th regiment in 1866 showing a similar uniform style for the tunic:
(src)
The name of the photographer on the backside is given as
Arthur J Langton, Electric Light Studio, Buckingham Road
For which we find the entry:
Langton, Arthur James
35 Buckingham Palace Road S.W.
1887-08-
— Michael Pritchard: "Directory of London Photographers 1841-1908"
This photographer
seems to have cared much for visuals and advertising, but perhaps didn't care that much for correct spelling in general, as evidenced by this ad:
Which would explain the address "Blessingdon Rd" instead of 'Blessington Road'?
From the "Forces" Service Records it is currently unclear when the addressee Walter Olivey received his CB/KCB honurs (link1, link2), but as per Wikipedia he seems to have received it in 1887.
Wikipedia: 1887 Golden Jubilee Honours
Order of the Bath, Knight Commander (KCB), Additional Members (Civil)
Colonel Walter Rice Olivey CB, Chief Paymaster, Army Pay Department.
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